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April 9, 2007 ArticleFigures & DataInfoMetrics Abstract Error bars commonly appear in figures in publications, but experimental biologists are often unsure how they should be used and interpreted. In this article we illustrate some basic features of error bars and explain how they can help communicate data and assist correct interpretation. Error bars may show confidence intervals, standard errors, standard deviations, or other quantities. Different types of error bars give quite different information, and so figure legends must make clear what error bars represent. We suggest eight simple rules to assist with effective use and interpretation of error bars. What are error bars for? Journals that publish science—knowledge gained through repeated observation or experiment—don't just present new conclusions, they also present evidence so readers can verify that the authors' reasoning is correct. Figures with error bars can, if used properly (1–6), give information describing the data (descriptive statistics), or information about what conclusions, or inferences, are justified (inferential statistics). These two basic categories of error bars are depicted in exactly the same way, but are actually fundamentally different. Our aim is to illustrate basic properties of figures with any of the common error bars, as summar
- (Apr/07/2008 )Pages: 12NextDear All, I have been doing a time course experiment (analysed by Real Time PCR) and I have repeated it 3 times (independently), obtaining 3 different and independent sets of results for the same time
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course. I want to represent it in a graph with columns and error bars, how to use error bars but I am not too sure of how to do it and what statistical commands to use in Excel. As far as error bars in experimental biology I know, the average between the 3 values for a certain time point would be used for the column, right? But how about the error bars? Do we use standard deviation for that? Or standard error? SEM? http://jcb.rupress.org/content/177/1/7 Or something else? If we are supposed to use standard deviation, then which type should it be? I noticed in Excel there are at least 4 different ways of finding standard deviation (STDEVP, STDEV, etc)I would really appreciate if you could help me out here, I've checked some tutorials on the internet but I still couldn't figure it out. Thank you very much! Julianne. -Julianne W- Error bars - ahhhh, MS-Excel can be http://www.protocol-online.org/biology-forums/posts/35569.html hard to understand for this but still doable.Firstly, for standard deviation use STDEV.There is no easy command for standard error but you can set up formula like <=STDEV(A1:F1)/SQRT(6)> where cells A1 to F1 contain the values you have averaged and 6 is the number of values (n) i.e. A1, B1, C1, D1, E1 + F1 = 6.Hope this helps,AussieUSA. -AussieUSA- I think most error bars are SEM.So first you calculate your stdev.then SEM = stdev/sqrt(n)I think that's right It IS early in the morning! -Clare- Hi! Thank you so much for all the tips! It helped so much, now I have my graphs all nicely... I talked to my supervisor and he asked me to calculate the P value now for the different values, to know if they are significantly different from each other. Any idea on how to do it? I checked my old statistics book, but I am still a bit clueless of how to proceed... do I have to do also any kind of ANOVA or other fancy analysis, to know if they are significantly different from each other? Thank you a lot! Julianne. -Julianne W- QUOTE (Julianne W @ Apr 10 2008, 10:11 PM) Hi! Thank you so much for all the tips! It helped so much, now I have my graphs all
Jobs Current Issue Archive Audio & Video For Authors Archive Volume 492 Issue 7428 Comment Article Nature | Comment Print Share/bookmark Cite U Like Facebook Twitter Delicious Digg Google+ LinkedIn Reddit StumbleUpon Previous article Nature | Comment http://www.nature.com/articles/492180a Palaeontology: The 100-year mystery of Piltdown Man Next article Nature | Books and Arts Genetics: Testing infant destinies Research methods: Know when your numbers are significant David L. Vaux1, Journal name: Nature Volume: 492, Pages: 180–181 Date published: (13 December 2012) DOI: doi:10.1038/492180a Published online 12 December 2012 Article tools PDF PDF Download as PDF (783 KB) View interactive PDF in ReadCube Citation Reprints Rights & permissions Article metrics Experimental biologists, error bars their reviewers and their publishers must grasp basic statistics, urges David L. Vaux, or sloppy science will continue to grow. Subject terms: Cell biology• Peer review• Publishing• Mathematics and computing ILLUSTRATION BY PETE ELLIS/DRAWGOOD.COM The incidence of papers in cell and molecular biology that have basic statistical mistakes is alarming. I see figures with error bars that do not say what they describe, and error bars and P values for error bars in single, 'representative' experiments. So, as an increasingly weary reviewer of many a biology publication, I'm going to spell out again1 the basics that every experimental biologist should know.Simply put, statistics and error bars should be used only for independent data, and not for identical replicates within a single experiment. Because science represents the knowledge gained from repeated observations or experiments, these have to be performed more than once — or must use multiple independent samples — for us to have confidence that the results are not just a fluke, a coincidence or a mistake. To show only the result of a single experiment, even if it is a representative one, and then misuse statistics to justify that decision, erodes the integrity of the scientific literature.It is eight years since Nature adopted a policy of insisting that papers containing figures with error bars describe what the error bars represent2. Nevertheless, it is still common to find papers in most biology journals — Nature included — that contain this and other basic statistical errors. In my opinion, the fact that these scientifically sloppy papers continue to be published means that the authors, reviewers and editors cannot comprehend the statistics, that they have not read the paper carefully, or both.Why does this hap