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of great importance for the performance of a CAN system. The error handling aims at detecting errors in messages appearing on the CAN bus, so that the transmitter can retransmit an erroneous message. Every CAN controller along a bus will try to detect errors within a message. If an error is found, the discovering node bus error 10 mac will transmit an Error Flag, thus destroying the bus traffic. The other nodes will detect the error caused by the Error Flag (if they haven't already detected the original error) and take appropriate action, i.e. discard the current message. Each node maintains two error counters: the Transmit Error Counter and the Receive Error Counter. There are several rules governing how these counters are incremented and/or decremented. In essence, a transmitter detecting a fault increments its Transmit Error Counter faster than the listening nodes will increment their Receive Error Counter. This is because there is a good chance that it is the transmitter who is at fault! When any Error Counter raises over a certain value, the node will first become "error passive", that is, it will not actively destroy the bus traffic when it detects an error, and then "bus off", which means that the node doesn't participate in the bus traffic at all. Using the error counters, a CAN node can n
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a minute: Sign up What happens if a bus-off error occurs in a CAN controller while a car is in motion? up vote 2 down vote favorite 2 I know that in a CAN controller if the error count reaches some https://www.kvaser.com/about-can/the-can-protocol/can-error-handling/ threshold (say 255), bus off will occur which means that a particular CAN node will get switched off from the CAN network. So there won't be any communication at all. But what if the above said scenario happens while the car is moving which contains the ECU (includes the CAN controller)? Is there any auto-recovery mechanism in a CAN controller to avoid any of the above situations? can share|improve this question edited Mar 4 '14 at 18:17 Peter Mortensen 10.2k1369107 asked Dec http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8615906/what-happens-if-a-bus-off-error-occurs-in-a-can-controller-while-a-car-is-in-mot 23 '11 at 12:08 Jeganraj 15328 add a comment| 8 Answers 8 active oldest votes up vote 1 down vote Nothing spectacular will happen, even if the Engine Control Unit looses CAN communication. The car will continue running. share|improve this answer answered Jul 30 '12 at 16:58 jurij 110415 This is so pretty and happy, what you've just wrote! :] I would be really terrified, if my car would stop in the middle of trip, only because one of the CAN nodes caused some error! :] +1, case you made my day with this cool answer! :] –trejder Apr 2 '14 at 8:59 add a comment| up vote 1 down vote During bus off, the node will be isolated. CAN waits for the mandatory time period, 128 x 11 bits (1408 bits - 5.6 ms for a 250kbit/s system) of time, and then tries to re-initialize the node. share|improve this answer edited Mar 4 '14 at 17:41 Peter Mortensen 10.2k1369107 answered Oct 1 '12 at 8:51 Kiran.vanam 213 add a comment| up vote 1 down vote When bus-off occurs, the CAN network isolates that node and then resets that node which can able to start communication. share|improve this answer edited Apr 2 '14 at 8:53 trejder 6,4401365131 answered Dec 28 '11 at 12:09 Rasmi Ranjan Nayak 2,852124687 How CAN node will restart if the node is already reset? –Jeganraj Dec 30 '11 at 14:07 @Jeganraj:- CAN
the community · Log in · Help ForumsCategoryBoardDocumentsUsers turn on suggestions Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Showing results for https://forums.ni.com/t5/Automotive-and-Embedded-Networks/Forcing-node-on-CAN-to-bus-off-state/td-p/458886 Search instead for Did you mean: Reply Topic Options Subscribe to RSS Feed Mark Topic as New Mark Topic as Read Float this Topic to the Top Bookmark Subscribe Printer Friendly Page All Forum Topics Previous Topic Next Topic Forcing node on CAN to bus off state Forcing node on CAN to bus off state Anil Srivatsav Member 12-30-2006 04:32 PM Options Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Subscribe to RSS Feed Highlight Print Email to a bus error Friend Report to a Moderator Hello All, I was trying to force a node on CAN into bus off state. Can you suggest a procedure ? Its really urgent. Waiting eagerly for reply. Thanks in advance and wish you all a very happy new year. 0 Kudos Message 1 of 9 (10,216 Views) Reply 0 Kudos Re: Forcing node on CAN to bus off state Anil Srivatsav Member 12-30-2006 04:52 PM Options Mark bus error 10 as New Bookmark Subscribe Subscribe to RSS Feed Highlight Print Email to a Friend Report to a Moderator To describe further, I have a fully functioning ECU, which happens to be a node on CAN bus. I would like to force the node to get into BUS-OFF mode. I cant play with status bits/status code, nor with the baud rate. The means I prefered, is to leave the node alone on the bus. On not getting Dominant ACK, it will soon get into passive mode. But asa part of CAN Protocol, this node will remain in passive state and cant get into off state on its own.From here, how can I force it to next level ? If therez any other method altogether, pls let me know. Thanks in advance 0 Kudos Message 2 of 9 (10,212 Views) Reply 0 Kudos Re: Forcing node on CAN to bus off state Blessing_Star Member 01-03-2007 03:50 AM Options Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Subscribe to RSS Feed Highlight Print Email to a Friend Report to a Moderator Hi Anil Kumar, I would like to suggest few things (from LabVIEW perspective) for you, 1. To make a CAN Bus Off state thro' program- Make such (relay setup) arrangement to short the CAN High & Low terminals to induce the Bus Off s